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Old 04-20-2008, 08:30 PM
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Talking #10 plate, GSK & 215 injectors

Just wanted to comment I'm pretty pleased with how the '98 is running with these mods. MikeR (Mike Ramos) installed the 3K GSK at the February Bomb Party at Hosses and did a great job of balancing them so it idles and runs super smooth. Then the number 10 plate was installed in the middle. Before this my truck was bone stock other than the Bosch 300 injectors, it was a virgin 180 pump. Now with the GSK it pulls hard to at least 3400, that's when I let off of it (I need to get those 60lb valve springs installed!).

I had the 300s in when the plate/GSK was installed, clearly it was too strong for the poor stock-o-matic, so I recently switched them out for the 215s since I don't have a transmission budget right now. The 215s are definitely smoother and got rid of the slight puff of smoke my truck always made when I stepped on the go-pedal (even if I barely touched the throttle). The 300s were clean otherwise even with a lot of throttle.

I see fuel economy is up already up with the 215s, and it just runs good with nice power delivery. Not a powerhouse but healthy, pulls decent with barely-visible haze to no smoke at WOT.

For those who haven't seen the '98 there's some pics in my album (green 2wd shortbed) http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n...%20Trucks/

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:41 PM
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i have a 94 i ended up with 370 stage two injectors, #5 plate and 4gsk and love the smoke affect it pisses everyone off. the nice thig about a standard 5 speed tranny is the only thing you have to do is a clutch job so i ended up with a vaial 13" 6speed ceramic conversion clutch for my everyday daily driver
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:21 PM
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Glad to hear you got some work done to the 98, I remember when you bumped the timing on it at the Bomb Party at Brians shop. It's amazing how much difference these mods can make on these trucks.

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good combo vn

as ya know,,,,,,, i hv #10, 3k gsk, 215's.

i run from 322 rwhp 785 rwtq [stock location] to 385/837 ahead to max, then moved back a bit using the same combo on my 215 pump. i'd be interseted to see your #s in may.

the 215s seem to be efficient. good mpg, decnt pwr.

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Heh. . . that was the bomb party I about froze my tutu off sleeping in the back of the truck. And managed to punch a hole in the crank seal when trying to install it in the timing cover. Thank goodness the local Napa had one in stock!!

Yeah Muddy I thought your truck was running good when I rode in it on that trip. Heck that was like November '06 wasn't it? Hey what's up with the smoke shooting up in your avatar, did you put a stack on the '97??

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Hey Vaughn good to see you posting again....
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Heh. . . that was the bomb party I about froze my tutu off sleeping in the back of the truck. And managed to punch a hole in the crank seal when trying to install it in the timing cover. Thank goodness the local Napa had one in stock!!


LoL that was the one. I haven't had a chance to make it to one since.

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yeah vn,,,,,,im runnin a single 5'' turnout stack. i'm tired of the extended winter this year so trying to 'warm the globe'. :
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What are you guys getting for fuel economy with the #10 plate, and the 215 injectors? I can get a #5,6,8 or 10 off of E-bay for 35$ CNC machined. I have a set of Pensacola stage 1 injectors to go in already. Right now my Dad is getting 17 around town in his F350 Crew cab dually, with about 500lbs of tools, chins, ect...
We want a better fuel economy, and better performance off the line, or in passing. He has a common rail exhaust manifold, gasket matched to the turbo and head. And a 4inch exhaust. Gauges are going in when we receive them.
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driving like an old man 15 [got 16 last time] with travel trailer. 18,300 gcw. 55mph.

can get anywhere from 19 to 24mpg on the road depending on speed and conditions.

my plate is now stock location [#10] and timing 15.5.

id grab the #10. best choice w/ gsk. best adjustability.

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2WD 12 Valve CUMMINS ONE TON DUALLY, CLUB CAB, FLAT BED by Bradford. NV4500. 5th Gear Nut Retained Preventively. South Bend Clutch Con-O. Goose Neck Hitch. Firestone Air Bags. Tork Lift Super Hitch With Double Tube Extension For Towing the Trailer behind the Camper. Custom Moose Bumper. Camper Tie Downs. Pac Brake Exhaust Brake. Auxilery Fuel Tank and Boxes. KDP ( Killer Dowel Pin ) Retained. 4.10 Gears in the rear Dana 80. Mag hy-tec Rear Pan on the Dana 80. Fast Coolers on the NV-4500 5 Speed Transmission. 235/85/16 10 Ply Tires. Gear Vendors Overdrive. Limited Slip Differential. #10 Fuel Plate in the P7100 Injection Pump. Factory Stock 215 Injectors. Pump Timing set at 15.5*. 3K GSK ( Governor Spring Kit ). HX-35 / HX-40 Hybrid Turbo. 60 Compressor 14 Wastegated. 4 Inch Diamond Eye Exhaust From Source Automotive. 2 Dipricol Pyrometers Boost guage Tranny Temp Guage. Gauge Saver T Backpressure Device, High Idle Device from HBOWERS. Cooldown Timer. Security System. Custom Adjustable Valet Switch. CUMMINS Chrome Kit. Prime Loc Fuel Filter System (Fleetguard spin On Fuel Filter) after the N.A.P.A. 4309 Filter Head and 3123 NAPA Fuel Filter / Water Separator. Optima Red Top Batteries. Fleetguard Stratapore Oil Filter. Amsoil In the Cummins Engine, the New Venture 4500, The Gear Vendor Auxilary Overdrive Transmission, and the Dana 80 Rear End. Supertech 2 Stroke TCW3 2 Cycle Oil in Each Tank of Diesel Fuel. (1/2 oz per Gallon) 385 Rear Wheel Horsepower and 837 Rear Wheel Torque on the Dynojet With the Fuel Plate Moved Ahead a Bit. Lance 8.5



03 Crew Cab 4WD. Smarty, BBi Stage 1 Injectors, Source Automotive Twins. Bunch of mods from Source. 717 RWHP @ Idaho Turbo Diesels Dyno Day.


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